David Carradine Murdered?



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Was David Carradine murdered?

Yesterday it was rumored to be a suicide, then it was a possible sex act gone wrong, now it may be murder.  I told you something was weird.

Police are now saying that foul play may be involved because Carradine’s hands were tied (along with his neck and genitals). A spokesperson told TMZ:  “It is unclear whether he committed suicide or not or [whether] he died of suffocation or heart failure.”

They add it may have been an accidental suffocation.

The information that has been leaking out has been so conflicting it’s been pretty confusing. When this usually happens it is because the publicists are scrambling to cover something up. I think this is the case in this situation. Something f***ed up happened here, and I’m sure it did involve freaky sex.

Carradine’s body was shipped back to the states today.

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  • david winters

    David Carradine WAS murdered and there is a cover up going on over here. This is David Winters, David starred in 2 films for me and i was told today that the police have not even looked at the CCCT cameras located in the Hotel. The Bangkok Post told me that with all their contacts even they cannot get any answers. David was a good friend of mine and i know he would NEVER kill himself. Ask for the tapes to be shown then we will at least know if anyone else was in his room with him. Thank you David

  • http://www.retromedia.org Fred Olen Ray

    Like David Winters I knew DC very well as we were neighbors and I had directed him in at least three movies. I also worked with his dad and brother Bobby on various films.

    David had plenty of ups and downs in his life that he sailed through and I don’t believe for a minute that he committed suicide.

    Kinky sex at 72 years of age… maybe… but even that remains to be seen… or perhaps we’ll never know.

  • http://MovieStarssaysomething- Michael

    Why are they trying to tarnish David’s name even after his death – this was no suicide, and not a kinky sex gone wrong. This is murder. What will a man David’s age engagte in tying his genitals and placing a rope for sexual pleasure. And now we are told his hands were tied.
    Movie stars need to begin an outcry because we can not sit and allow some frenziness onthe murder of a respectable and hardworking icon- why the cover up.

    Please say something …………………….
    Uma Thurman,
    Angelie Jol;ie
    Jackie Chan
    Lucy Liu
    Vivica A. Fox
    Daryl Hannah
    Bradd Pitt
    Denzel Washington
    Eddie Murphy
    Michael Madsen

  • GlobalView

    Could there be even more to this than is apparent on the surface?

    Who would want him dead (right when he was beginning a big comeback – see similarities with John Lennon). What message was he trying to give to the world that certain vested interests think might gives people too much freedom?

    He adored his wife completely. Why would he cheat on her and their new, young family?

    How could he have done the kinky sex thing by himself when, according to reports from the housekeeping staff, his hands were bound. Hard to “come and release” when your hands are tied, no matter how enlightened one might be.

    What is the significance of the black rope around his genitals, not the same yellow nylon rope that was around his neck?

    Who might have had him killed for political reasons and then attempted to blame it on the Bruce Lee sympathisers?

    These questions need to be asked by the people who are in a position to find the answers. I would like to know. So would his grieving family.

    The world is in a strange struggle for power at the moment. Might his death have been a warning/scare tactic to others who are sincerely trying to enlighten the world?

    Just asking. You decide.

  • mike

    so you all knew him so well that if he had an auto-erotic asphixiation fetish, he would go right out and tell you all about it, right???? There’s absolutely no way he would hide something like that from anyone right? I mean you always tell everyone you know about all your sexual preferences regardless of how weird, disturbing, or career ending they may be … right?

  • GlobalView

    Yes. Michael’s right.

    This is an outrageous situation. For whatever purpose, I feel that this was done as some sort of a warning, for what I’m not sure or why.

    But speak out, Will Smith (I think you can find some answers).

    Speak out, David Icke. You’re good at getting at things.

    What is really happening here and why has such a sweet, enlightened man been used as a pawn?

    As I said before, what was John Lennon trying to tell the world when he was killed? “All you need is love?” That there are people who are trying to keep us from thriving and tipping the balance of power?

    John was a decent and caring rebel too.

    Find out for yourself. Then tell us, will you?

  • GlobalView

    Hey Mike.

    No, nobody’s perfect but those who know him have a right to say what they have observed. But if it’s true that his hands were bound, how could it be “auto” anything?

    What are your fetishes? Would you like to share with the rest of the board?

  • Kate

    The man rocked in Kill Bill. What he did in his private life is nobodys business. Just guessing but I would say he hired or had a sexual partner to do this to him. When he died the sexual partner left the room and you will never find out who that is unless they are on tape going into his hotel room. Alot of people are into this as being discussed and having knowledge from comments above. I have no idea why anyone would get off on this but let the man rest in peace. Enjoy his films and old tv shows and remember him like that.

  • Thetruth

    I guess he likes something other than his chicken choked…….

  • http://magickpapers.com magick papers

    I’m a Bangkok blogger at the hotel where Carradine died. My blog is http://magickpapers.com/blog/

    The announcer for the BBC breaks the story on TV. David Carradine was found dead in the Swiss Hotel on Soi Nailert. The film star was found in the closet of his room bound by curtain rope around his neck, and the inference is that his genitals were bound as well. The news ran through the Bangkok film colony like a forest fire.

    I consult investigative journalist David Walker. He is also a screenwriter and author of the cult classic book, Hello My Big Big Honey. Walker is at the hotel. He has already led a CBS crew to legendary film producer-director David Winters penthouse office. Winters is a dear friend of Carradine from their glory days in Hollywood. Walker wants to see the surveilance tapes. No chance Bagger Vance. Dr. Pornthip, a colorful Thai forensic scientist is on the scene at the hotel. Walker says Pornthip, who is famous for sporting many hued punk hair styles and is a bit of a celebrity,delares the case to be death by auto sexual strangulation.

    I roll up to Winters penthouse office. He is devastated by the tragic loss of a dear friend. He has not slept. CBS and People Magazine have already come by to solicit intelligence. David is shocked by the tawdry inferrences. He has spoken to 3 of Carradines agents. The agents declare that Carradine was on the roll of a lifetime. Quentin Tarantino redefined the 72 year old actor in Kill Bill. Carradine recieved a Golden Globe nomination for his work with Tarantino. The actor of the classic cult TV series Kung Fu had starred in 13 motion pictures since Kill Bill. His salary was in the stratosphere.

    The strange circumstances of the verdict by auto- sexual strangulation trouble Winters. It takes two to tango. Why indeed would a man of his talent take his own life alone. Bangkok is known as a city with love for sale. Film people come here to shoot and avail themselves of the pleasures to be found in the gilded city of sin. Kinky sex is no big deal. Could this be a coverup for a sex robbery murder. The Royal Thai Police have shut the door on this case all too quickly. The tourist industry has been severely damaged by the recession and political instability. The murder of a famous film star would be a final nail in the coffin of the tourism industry. Winters says that Carradine, son of John , iconic members of an American cinema dynasty were above the fray. David Carradine was according to Winters a consumate gentleman, a brilliant actor, and a man for all seasons.

    I run into local film producer Tom Waller at a reception hosted by the Italian Embassy. Tom does not believe in the verdict of death by auto-sexual strangulation. He concludes that it was a sex robbery gone wrong, and that to cover the motives the body had been arranged to fit the profile of death by auto- sexual strangulation, a theory once confined to the genre of novels classified as psychological thrillers. The denizens of the film colony in Bangkok are incredulous at the grisly circumstances of the sad demise of this brilliant talent.

    The reception is attended by beaucoup des artistes and cineastes. Film critic Nick Palevski and I schmooze at the bar. Between glasses of vino rosso and spumante Nick expresses his distaste for the tawdy belching of the media and press. He is the critic for Auteur, a web site devoted to film criticism. He can not believe the shabby and sensational manner in which this case is being exploited.

    In no way is this story meant to impugn the reputation of the Royal Thai Police, their meritorious service is well known. Nor is it meant to slander the bereaved Carradine family. The American Embassy has issued a statement wishing the family the best in this tragic moment, embassy staff have no other conclusion re this case except the finding of the body. Aristotelian logic might conclude that something is rotten in Denmark. Western countries would conduct a far more sophisticated investigation.

    The epilogue is delivered by my dear friend in Santa Monica Martin Zweiback. He is a writer- producer director with 50 years of credits in Hollywood. Martin scrpted the original Kung Fu series and is a close friend of David Carradine. Martin is a gentleman of class and distinction. He often graces the Bangkok film colony with his presence. It is fitting that a cineaste of his stature have the final word in this affair. I recieved this e mail from Martin, and with all due respect to this fine bloke it is represented here below as a final testament to this sordid affair.

  • Lou

    In two other articles that I read they said that his hands were tied behind his back and that a shoe print was found on the bed that didn’t match his.. he was found hanging in the closet… tell me how could he have done this by himself?? Either it was murder or it was not intentional … but there had to be another person involved in either case. No matter what the cause he was a great actor and will be missed by many … it is a sad way to leave this world … my condolences to his family and friends.

  • Ivy

    It’s apparent that this was no suicide, however it’s a really undiginified ending to a man who seemed to have dignity.I do hope they investigate and find out what really happened.
    It’s sad that his name will always bring up this discussion, when his name should be linked to his being a great actor and from what I hear from his friends, a wonderful person.
    Everyone I know is so sorry to hear of his passing, he seemed to be a unique person and an incredible actor.
    Our hearts and sympathies go out to his family and friends. David will surely be missed by all, including us, his fans.

  • tom barnao

    IF I HAVE TO FLY TO BANKCOCK I WILL,AND KICK SOME THAI ASS I WILL.DAVID WAS MURDERED AND IF THE THAI POLICE DONT GET OFF THERE ASS AND INVESTIGATE THIS BULL SHIT I WILL.

  • Elrey JOnes

    Why would the Thailand police cover-up a murder? Is it because the Thai are racist towards foreigners?

  • http://www.myspace.com/liamstone Liam Stone

    It’s Liam Stone. My dear friend David Carradine WAS MURDERED!!! We became friends in February 2008, we are fellow entertainers, artists, dancers philosphers and martial artist. None of my friends who knew David personally or worked with him believe he killed himself or killed himself with a sex act. David was happily married and I have met wife Annie, two teenage daughters and ten year old son Max. David Carradine and Pattrick Culliton invited me to the Magic Castle May 2, 2009 when they found out I was a child amatuer magician and have never been to the Magic Castle in Hollywood. We had a wonderful and happy evening. David was generous and even bought me two rounds of drinks and gave me kind advice as an actor in Hollywood and life in general. He was doing great happy with a new car and tons of films lined up. He is a decent wise happy strong man and none of the suicide or sex explainations are true. His hands were tied behind his back when they found him!! COME ON how can a man tie his own hands behind his back??? FOUL PLAY. I SORELY MISS MY FRIEND and I WANT JUSTICE AND THE MEDIA TO NOT DISHONOR HIM!!!!! Espceially his ten year old son MAX who really looks up to him along with many people. IT IS AN OUTRAGE AT MEDIA ACTING LIKE PAPPARRAZIS!!!!!! MY CONDOLENCES TO ANNIE AND THE KIDS.

    Sincerely,
    Liam Stone
    http://www.myspace.com/liamstone

  • Ulla

    Thai authorities would probably want it to seem like suicide or auto sex gone bad. A murder would scare the tourists away. But lots of funny things happen on tourist resorts in Thailand, paradise turned into hell. Tsunami is not the only danger.

  • david winters

    David Carradine was murdered and there is a cover up over here in Bangkok. It was probably done by a ladtboy, either on purpose or accidently. The ladyboy would be strong enough and big enough to pick him up and place him in the closet. I want to see the tapes from the hotel’s cameras. Please try to get your hands on them and check them out as they may have been tampered with already.

    I think the police and the hotel are both involved.

    David would never kill himself….for sure….he was happily working and that was all he wanted in life …he was on a roll as Chuck and Tiffany his managers say. he had many more films to make and money was rolling in.

    When he called me i told him how wonderful Bangkok was, i wish i had never said that now.

    Keith is correct in wanting the FBI to investigate the case.

    David starred in 2 films for me and i knew him quite well as a personal friend and he would not do this when he had a rebirth so to speak as a Star!!

    This will probably get me killed to!! But someone has to speak for David as he canno0t!! RIP…..David

  • ED HOWE

    I believe it was murder and it is being covered up I think that the cleaning lady and the hotel employes should be questioned as suspects there is always the possibility that the maid was doing more then cleaning since she would find more money in escorting and sexual fantasies However This would have to be covered up since there would be a lot of rich people in Bangcok that would have to much to lose

  • Rex

    David Carradine did not commit suicide. At 70 something years old, it’s a little redundant. He had everything to live for. I very much admired him for “Kung Fu”. I watched that as a kid. My older brother got his azz kicked trying to emulate him while in school. Taking your boots off for show isn’t enough, lol! Knowing the moves might be helpful, hah, hah! Anyway, I don’t want to see the death pics of David Carradine. I don’t want to remember him that way. Rest, David. We’ll miss you.

  • http://myspace.com/4ordinarypeople Looker

    It’s shady to say the least!
    I think the autopsy in the USA will show
    those ligature marks were made after death
    or some other evidence that will confirm foul play.
    Suicide and accidental (sex) deaths like this are frequent cover-ups in suspicious deaths – some of the top stupidest things I hear on say, NBC

    The guy had everything to live for. And at 72, only acted it up for the movies
    and music. Anyone who knew him will tell ‘ya.
    Try not to believe everything you read. There is this thing called bias.
    He had got himself clean and into fitness years ago and was going to shoot a film in tailand in two weeks.
    I heard from my buddy who works at MTV. He knows one of his groupies. He was found with his hands tied swinging in the closet of his hotel with an apple in his mouth.

    Tai mafia – their version of a mexican necktie
    Common in tailand I guess. They are well known for killing porn actresses this way. They probably know who is responsible but are paid to say suicide or whatever. They don’t care either. Those responsible will never come to justice. Just counting their cash.

    What a waste of life just for the insurance money on the production.

    His talent will be missed.

    Kill Bill is a classic.

    Sorry to shock you but I think the press is now
    slandering the guy. I don’t think this rumor is untrue.
    I wouldn’t be surprised to hear next in details of the autopsy that he died choking on something he ate.

  • Scruffytubs

    Pervert died doing himself in and with some young slut to help.

  • Anorexiakills

    Deviant committed incest too? What a freak! I guess he’s going to a hot place now to fester.

  • Carmelo

    What a SCUMBAG. This story is vomit inducing to everyone. He’s not a icon or legend, he’s a Total DIRTBAG!

  • Linda

    Whoever was NOT there to see what happened should be quiet.
    I find it hard to believe a 72 year old intelligent man died from sexual perversion by choking himself for sexual gratification.
    I’m to believe that he flew a long flight from here to Thailand, went to rest because he would have been tired, that he woke up early, had no coffee, had no breakfast and decided to engage in sexual perversions knowing he could die doesn’t sound like something a seventy-two (72) year old man (David Carradine or not David Carradine or no actor) would do.
    People should have some respect for his family and quit believing what they hear.
    Give Mr Carradine the benefit of the doubt.

    .