No, I don’t ever write about Kate Gosselin and her family, but this latest photo of her spanking her daughter Leah is stirring up some controversy amongst parents and I want to hear your take on it.
Spanking: Is it ok to spank your child these days?
I say hell yes it is! Sometimes kids need a little tough love. Nothing that will hurt them, mind you. Just something to make them understand that you are not fooling around.
In my opinion too many parents want to ’sweet talk’ their kids into listening to them – and that shiz just don’t work. Those are the kids that end up ruling the household and making the lives of babysitters, wait staff and grocery store clerks everywhere a living hell.
Discipline is good. And sadly there is a lack of that amongst too many parents these days.
Thoughts?
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I came from (probably one) of the last generations to be spanked, and it taught be to 1) behave in public places and 2) to mind and respect your parents.
When my boys were younger, yes, I did spank them. Now all I have to do is raise my voice and they know I mean business. They know that they need to respect me and any other “elders”-whether it be their teacher or the crossing guard near their school.
IMO, there are WAY too many kids getting away with WAY too much crap these days. They have ZERO respect for their parents (or anyone else for that matter) and many times it’s because they know their parents aren’t going to do anything. **getting off soapbox now**
I agree, my Mother spanked me and I also got the back of her hand once for sassing.. and each time she was about as upset as me. She also made me clean the switch, to save her hand. You do not need to beat kids to get the point across. Kate problem is, it was caught on camera and the recent video showing her denying Mady a drink while she herself took one in front of her is not only physical abuse but physicological abuse abuse as well. Kate in my opinion has put herself in a world of hurt with these cameras around her 24/7. I can see while Jon is not around, he is just biding his time and guarding his nads till Kate self implodes.
Please… If I was this kid, I’d turn right back around and slap the shyt out this ugly porcupine-haired tramp. Yes I agree that kids needs to be spanked and disciplined. Kids need structure and a routine. Her kids have neither. Simply because the worthless bytch of a mother they’re stuck with, is nothing more but a selfish ugly bytch. All Kate cares about is guess who? KATE… So arrest this bytch and throw her in jail. And arrest Jon too… For being such an ugly coward
Absolutely spank! Both my boys (15 & 11 yrs old) are bigger than me now…..but they KNOW who is boss! Thats because when they were smaller and acted like fools or showed disrespect I tore their little asses UP!
I see WAY too many kids these days getting away with talking to their parents like they are trash and causing trouble where ever they go and that makes me want to vomit!
There is nothing wrong with spanking your kids, in fact people need to do it more. (In my opinion) That is why there are so many little brats out there, everyone is afraid to touch there kids because of CPS. Which in my opinion is a load of crap, they take so many kids away from parent for NO REASON and leave other kids in bad homes. Also how many foster and adoptive parents have abused kids? LOTS!
It seems like people are just out to get them. Just because they have a show on T.V. doesn’t mean that it’s OK for people to treat them this way or that they asked for it. Everyone needs to get over it!
People are gonna have a problem with it cause it’s her, but the only problem I have with spanking is when people do it in front of other people. I don’t want to see you smack your child. Don’t do that shit in public!!!! I believe a little swat is sometimes useful, but not a full on ass whoopin.
I find that giving my daughter a time out without toys, games, and tv work alot better than spanking. Not that I am against It or anything because I am not. I think that’s probably why kids act like brats nowadays because they get NO form of punishement whether it be from spanking or grounding or things taken away. Kids run the houses nowadays and that’s one thing thats wrong with the world today.
are you all forgetting when the show started and the sextuplets were playing in the garage and Joel bit Collin, the BITCH herself said she don’t believe in spanking that she makes them sit down when they are misbehaving! There was also a carpet at the end of the stairs in the old house that the kids had to sit on when they were misbehaving! This is just a sign of her LOSING it, she needs them kids taken away so she can’t keep making money OFF them and needs to get her ass out there and get a damn job and support her family that way! If I were John these pictures would be blown up and taken in front of the judge when the BITCH files for a divorce!!!! He has a lot more patience with them kids then she EVER has!
Spanking isn’t the same as randomly smacking your kids. If she wants to discipline a child for doing something she should make a specific point of taking her somewhere (perhaps even away from the other kids, even just around the corner of the house so that the entire group isn’t scared/humiliating her) and saying “I am spanking you because…is wrong and you were warned that this would happen if you continued to do it” or whatever version is applicable.
From these photos it seems as though Kate just whacked her when she got irritated, which is a just fine line away from abuse, in my opinion. If it’s punishment it should be meted out as punishment (particularly physical punishment), not just interjected into their daily routine whenever Mommy gets cranky. That doesn’t teach discipline, it just breaks the mother-child bond of trust and makes the kids nervous that they’ll be hit whenever she happens to be moody.
The fact is that these children are never with there parents, they never around. Kate is parading around. While Jon is know where to be found. I feel for these kids, because they once had parents. Now they have Babysitters. Poor thing was probably just trying to get some attention.
I just dont understand, at the beginning of the series of Jon & Kate plus 8 Kate said that she will not spank her kids. I’m not saying spanking kids are wrong, they are needed when they need to be diciplined. I think Kate is under so much stress from Paparazzi and this Predicament with Jon that she gets overwhelmed with her childrens bad behavior and desides this is whats going to warn a 5 year old that screaming doesn’t get your own way. See I dont know the whole story why she spanked her depending on the story is whether it was right or not.
First off; I grew up with just one older brother. We got along for the most part, and even when we didn’t and were seperated, I was never talked down to by my mum. When I say ‘talked down to’ I mean I never got a feeling of being less then human, I was treated by my parents as an equal, not just as a child. That didn’t mean I got away with whatever I wanted, I never found reasons to act up, even at a young age I repected my parents without them putting in an initial fear (such as spanking). As well as my brother having the same respect.
My brother and I got along, we still do, I wouldn’t say it’s all luck, but some.
Of course in a different situation, with a larger amount of kids you, without a doubt, need to have a firmer grip on them. Personally, even with my own kids, I’d be against spanking, it’s cruel to me. But.. everone is born different, so it depends on the parent(s) or guardian(s) and their situation.
You can not say ‘hell ya’ or ‘no way’ to the question unless you truely know the situation. I’ve known mother who were the sweetest, behind doors even. But because of the fathers influence she had no choice, but to instill fear of the pain from spanking or else who knows what they would have turned into as they got older.
Bottom line is; no one is the same, you can raise a perfect angel and they could turn into a serial killer so the choice can be difficult.
As for Jon and Kate plus 8, I’ve watched the show just as many others from the start, and all I can say is.. it shouldn’t be continued for the kids sake. They had kids (LOTS OF KIDS) at such a young age, it was hard enough on their relationship without the mass amount of people watching the show for all the wrong reasons. Keep in mind tabliods will do anything to sell their products and there are only 57(around thate)episodes, which is only 57 glipses into their life. Only the immediate family counts when it comes to the realism.
So the last straw on the donkey huh? I’m on the phone.. stfup! Wham Bam! Me me me! NO.. I was teaching her to respect me.. I am not a bad momma. kate has a tame and tepid husband, she has too many kids to micromanage.. so she resentful at everyone because she is also, awake and negotiating, making all decisions, getting the people who depend on her.. fame and fortune and everyone seems to be lacking her stamina and fortitude, power and might, in her way and bothering her to the flash point, she has forgotten to stop what she is doing and explain.. love, tenderly cherish and live in less wealthy circumstances in order to accomplish peace and privacy, freedom for her children, to just be children not actors and actresses, on cue, on time and perfect,..never complaining.. many actors have said their parents and the studio severely punished them if they didn’t obey and never talk back.. so they became jerks, addicts, abusers and suicidal.. I believe them.
i think its fine to beat ur kids.the public is making a big deal about it.i mean its not like she was punching her, its her daughter and she can dicsipline her anyway she wants. i bet u have of those crew members and other people beat their kids so they just need to leave kate alone
are you kidding me….who are these people writing in calling her vulgar names and saying “she’s losing it”. Filthy mouth Laura…you are a great example..let’s all listen to you. You have no idea what she deals with while her immature husband is driving around on his motorcycle and running the roads with other women. So this isn’t the “Cosby’s” or “The Brady Bunch”…this is real life.
Yeah and the same goes for him, you have no idea what he has to deal with living with her!!! When the show first started I actually thought wow I wish i could be a mother like her but looking at her past behavior towards her husband and her kids wow, no way i would even wanna be ANYTHING like her!!!!
Ok so here’s what I think, I am a mom & yes I spank my kids when necessary. I think it will be a cold day in he** when someone tells how & when I can discipline my children. Most of us that are Kate’s age & older were all raised in a spanking family. I’m not sure why today everyone feels it’s an “abusive” thing. This may sound completely nuts but when I was spanked by my mother as I child I would childlishy tell her she was abusive, to which she would remark do you want to know what abuse is? There are children out there whose parents burn them, a spanking is hardly abuse. As a mom now she was absolutely right! I’m so sorry Kate that your parenting is being microscoped. Love Kate, love the kids, love the show!
I was spanked as a child and I knew that once I had kids that I would not spank, and my husband and I don’t. Personally we just don’t think that it is right for someone to spank a child, our kids get an incentive taken away for the day if they don’t behave. While it may not work for some kids, it has always worked for all of our kids.
I’ve been spanked before because yes, it does teach a child to behave and know when something they do is wrong. I feel horrible for little Leah who may stumble upon this picture on the internet taken outside her house by nasty paparazzi. Would you want a record of your mother spanking you? no, i think not. I am hoping that this announcement on Monday is that this show will be over and the family can concentrate on things that matter, not freebies, book tours, paparazzi, or selling their family to a television show.
I think that yes, it is okay to spank children as a form of discipline. Nothing MAJOR, mind you…but, a spanking. Speaking for myself, I KNOW I was a stubborn, hard-headed child; at times, spankings were the only thing I responded to. I LOVE the show and think that EVERYTHING they do is being scrutinized! Would it be all over the news if it were an average Joe (or Josephine) spanking their child? I will say this, having watched the show since it’s debut…I was COMPLETELY shocked to see that Leah was the one being spanked…I TOTALLY thought it would’ve been MADY!!!! With that child’s mouth and attitude, I’m surprised there aren’t tons of pics of her being spanked!! *lol*
i totally agree with t-bone! their are loads of parents who really do abuse their kids and that is wrong. but to spank or hit kids (your own) when necessary is not abuse! kids need to be told when they have crossed the line and that will do it.
I was raised by a single mother (divorced) and we lived in a drug infested, gang infested area in New Jersey. It was four of us and yes we got beat. Never enough to kill us but to keep us on the right path. All four of us are college grads, married, law abiding homeowners. I think it works.
I am 21 years old and I still get hit by my mom and yes I am way too old to be but I will never hit my mom back because she is a beast. Both me and my older sister got hit when we were bad. My mom will announce to the world you have to get in the car with me or I will smack you in the face you in front of people and everyone around will have heard her say it. Sometimes getting spanked is the only way a child will behave. My sister and I turned out okay.
Absolutely. I have been saying all along she should be spanking those kids! I think they also should cancel the show and have a real family, privately, and raise their children right and not for cameras. Spanking a child out of frustration doesn’t work so I hope she wasn’t doing that… spanking in a calm, controlled, predictable manner… a young child… works. I have five and three are nearly grown. Three of our children were also adopted from very difficult backgrounds. They need lots of love, lots of affection, tons of structure, unconditional love, and spanking when they are young. The success from it is amazing. Has nothing to do with abuse. That is something horrible and totally different. I support Kate spanking her child, and don’t support her show (won’t even watch these days!). Success went to her head and she’s been deemed an “expert” when all her children are under age 10. Ridiculous. She should be sitting at the feet of some older, experienced moms w/lots of children, she should be in touch w/her family and not estranged from them. She should be a young mom and do her work like the rest of us did.
You guys don’t think it’s that bad BECAUSE YOU HAVEN’T SEEN THE VIDEO YET!! The pictures make it look not so bad but the video shows it clearly, she’s hitting the poor child pretty hard.. vostuu DOT com SLASH kate.html
This is hitting out of anger/ annoyance not formal discipline. That’s called assault.
These kids are going to grow up to be juvenile delinquents, maybe adult criminals. I predict as they get older…they will steal, do drugs, for the girls they’ll have sex at a pre-teen age and become strippers, prostitutes as they hit their teenage years. Some of those girls may even become pregnant at an early age. I also predict that some of them if not all them at some point will be arrested by the police and thrown into a juvenile detention center…some may grow up to be criminals and locked up in an adult jail or prison and become heavily addicted to alcohol or drugs. These are a cycle and pattern of children who are raised in disfunctional families and in the end society has to pay the piper.
There’s a very fine line between spanking and abuse. For those of you who think it’s not abuse, would it be abusive to hit a child in the face with an open hand? I hope you say yes. Then why is it OK to hit a child on the butt? I don’t think one spanking when a kid is really out of control is that bad, but there are different degrees. There are people who use their hands, belts, sticks, etc to spank. At what point does it become abuse? Maybe your hand doesn’t hurt the child badly, but I have to believe a belt would. Is it OK to leave bruises, welts, etc on a small child’s skin? How many times do you guys think it’s OK to hit a kid? Maybe one swat isn’t so bad, but what about people who hit hard 5+ times? What if you start out with no intention to hurt, giving 1 swat with your hand, but it eventually stops becoming effective because the kid either gets used to it or stops being scared? Then, do you move on to an object that hurts and hit more times? If someone did to you (as an adult), what you do to your child, would you be OK with it? Let’s say, you’re speeding and instead of getting a ticket the cop pulls you over and hits your butt multiple times? Would you think, oh, this will stop people from speeding or would you think, this is crazy, physical violence, sexual assault?
WTF is Jim talking about???? There is no proof that these kids will grow up to do any of the stuff that he is referring to.
I think that spanking a child is ok. Too many kids have no respect for parents and adults. I was spanked and hit with a belt growing up. Sometimes it is needed and they need to be told why? I spank my kids and sometimes used the time out. My sons friends talk back and our disrespectable to their parents. I explain to my children that it is not acceptalbe in our household.
people need to spank there kids some times that is why we in america have such retarded don’t know how to act in puplic disrespectfull kids in this country …….i say if all she was doing was spanking that kid of hers and not beating than she was with in her rights…and not only that you all should mind your own buisness and take care of your own disrespectfull kids you just raised who tell you to go get f—– every time you tell or ask them some thing….and as a teacher i tell you what if i knew kids were going to be like this i would have done some thing else for a living…
So what? She is spanking her child, NOT beating her. I grew up in a large family and it was nothing for my Mom to go after us with a fly-swatter or wooden spoon in hand. Do ANY of us feel we were abused. NO! Do we have the highest respect for our Mother? YES! Personally I feel the way children are today (including my grandhchildren) it is time to get rid of the ‘left wing thinking’ and apply an occasional slap on the ass.
Everybody should mind there own business, so what if she spank her that’s her daughter. The media is just making a big deal about it, because she is a celebrity. As long as she doesn’t hurt her if she spanks her let it be, if i was Kate i would send everybody to hell, she knows what she is doing, she was the one who had her. So Kate if u ever read this, Make sure u send everyone who critisize u to hellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll. Those people don’t have a life, that’s why they watch every step u take off cameras.
I am all for spanking when the situation warrants it. This situation didn’t warrant a spanking. Taking away the whistle and a time out probably would have worked just fine. But Kate was annoyed and frustrated because Leah wouldn’t be quiet while she was on the phone. Spanking and smacks should be reserved for really egregious acts, and not simply out of annoyance and frustration.
For everyone saying people should mind their own business, yes, generally, I agree. But, let’s not forget that this woman CHOSE to put herself in the public eye. For some people they are put in the public eye as a result of their occupation, i.e. actor, musician, athlete. This isn’t the case. Kate Gosselin wanted the attention and the paps. She knew that there were photographers in eyesight when she spanked her daughter. She has also, by the way, tried to appear as though she does not spank by using time outs only when on camera, even for worse offenses. She knew spanking her kid in front of photographers would likely lead to attention. She may have even spanked her daughter in order to get attention.
I don’t have a problem with people spanking their children, even in public. I do have a problem with people removing a child’s clothes before spanking them, especially in public. Thanks to Kate Gosselin, this poor little girl now has a picture of her with her dress lifted up and her underwear showing plastered in magazines and all over the internet. I’m sure all the creepers and pedophiles out there are loving these pictures. Would it really have made a difference if Kate either hadn’t lifted her dress up to spank her or had spanked her inside the house?
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I believe there is absolutly NO problem with spanking. Many people consider it to be abuse. Thats just wrong. A parent has a right to punish there child any way they want. Back in the early 1900s schools could spank kids and before that they could do stuff like make them stand on there tip toes with there nose in a circle on the board..(very painful) I believe that our generation has everything mixed up which is why kids have lost respect and it feels like society has gone to the dogs. Think about it back in the olden days how many gangs did we have compared to how many we have now. It all has to do with early childhood punishment i beleive. Now there are other ways to punish now days- as someone said before kate usually beleives in sitting the children in a corner. The problem with this is that it takes ALOT of patients, understanding and energy to do that and is not always effective to either the parent or the child. Who wants to stay all day with a bunch of kids and then try to keep a child in a corner while they are crying and throwing a fit? no one. Spanking is one of the easiest ways to punish a child and it is right to the point. The only thing a parent has to remember is to not do it out of anger but in the childs best interest. AND DONT SPANK EASY! this is one of the worst things a parent could do! i remember when i was little my little brother would laugh when he got a spankin from my mother and he doesnt show her any respect to her even now.
I believe in spanking I have done it myself,,, kids can be very annoying somethimes and disrespectful, it sucks being in her position right now. She is a human being dont forget !and she is going through some very tough times. kids sometimes do need to be spank , and about the water issue,, come on you know kids ask for stuff all the times even if they dont need it.. You guys have seen how the girl get tatrums on the show.. I WOULD DO THE SAME THING,, its ok for her to wait a little bit more time for the drink of water, its not always going to be giving when she wants to take a sip…
Shes in front of her friggin house! ON HER PROPERTY. The nearest neighbor is WHERE!?!? Shes not ‘In public”. The only reason we are all seeing it is because the media is showing it to us, and the only reason they’re showing it to us is because the American public is nosey as hell. Have you seen the show!? these are some cute, lovable, BAD ASS KIDS! and they’re are 8 of them! the twins are JUST now getting to not be bratty! Shes not using an object to spank her, shes not dragging her by her hair or holding her up off the ground by her neck. Shes disciplining her bad ass kid. AND LEAH…. IS A HANDFUL out of ALL OF THEM! seriously.
THESE CHILDREN ARE GOING TO BE DELIQUENTS. AS THEY GET OLDER THEY WILL END UP FIRST IN JUVI AND WHEN THEY HIT ADULTHOOD…COUNTY JAIL MAYBE STATE PRISON. AND THE GIRLS WILL BECOME PREGNANT AT AN EARLY AGE OR TURN INTO HOOKERS. THESE ARE TRENDS AND PATTERNS WITH CHILDREN WHO GROW UP IN DISFUNCTIONAL FAMALIES! TRUST ME ON THIS ONE!!!
it is not bad to spank them kids because they are lil brats that need that or they will rule that house . you know
I’ve watched the show from day one but, was genuinely surprised when I heard it was LEAH she had spanked!! Most of the children have always appeared to be good children….except for Mady!! She is DEFINITELY her mother’s child!!!! I’ve haven’t seen an attitude or heard a smart-mouth like that on a child in a long time!!! She seems to have settled down some so far this season…but, then again, it is still very early in the season!! I’m sure it’s only a matter of time before the “Real Mady” rears her head again!!! *lol*
My husband and I were spanked as a children and my children are spanked. My step-kids were not spanked when they were little due to their mothers views and now they would rather call you a f@#king b@tch than listen to what they are told. Alot of kids today are not spanked and I believe this is why they behave the way do. Do I think they need beat….Heck NO. A spanking when they are out of line is one thing (like Kate) a beating is a total different thing. Kate pushing Leah away was sending her a message that it is not okay to behave that way and IF you get spanked I will not cuddle you right away because that is saying what I did was wrong. Sending kids the right message all the time not some of the time is what is important.
These girls are going to have a rough life ahead. Stay tuned, the girls will get pregnant before 16 and maybe go into prostitution. For the boys, they’ll end up in jail or become drunks & drug addicts. Disfunctional families (equals)= messed up lives!!!
Kate’s a fart huffer.
Jim I think you are a complete nut job, if you have nothing valid to say about the issue & or peoples comments you should say nothing at all